Reactionary Civil War Heating Up Over Taylor Marshall? I think youre, closer to my position than Taylors since both of us wont attend SSPX (for ineffable reasons, even) and yet he will, In the interest Christian unity, Id like to emphasize that I do NOT believe that. Such heated rhetoric between ostensible allies and fellow reactionaries has huge implications for the internal unity of the reactionary movement, which appears to be significantly fracturing (an almost inevitable occurrence with all heretical, schismatic, and quasi-schismatic movements; I classify reactionaries as in the latter group). by Dr Taylor Marshall. Patrick is the Canadian-born former host of Catholic Answers Live, and he has raving fans around the world. He wont call back. Unfortunately, he ceased to be Catholic in 2019, when he committed public formal schism by saying, about Pope Francis: I resist him to his face. My brand CANT be damaged by defending the ONE HOLY CHURCH against outsiders who claim my Sunday obligation isnt fulfilled if I attend novus. Irrelevant. (, You know its not true I cant believe you think he has no understanding of any of the issues he talks about. [26] Traditionalist Catholic writer Matthew Walther criticized both Marshall's advocacy for then-President Trump and his claims against Pope Francis. Why all the handwringing about civility? Wow. Lets take this offline and chat by phone later, yes? Someone close to Taylor, tell him to return my call. Marshall: I just dont see where anyone on earth can judge the Supreme Pontiff.. There are certainly a few factors, as with all etiologies, but I speculate that his evolution regarding SSPX was probably one of them. And most of these people think you're scum just for going to the Novus Ordo. I read somewhere that it has something to do with the Society of St. Pius X, a group in an "irregular situation" regarding canonical status due to the founder's excommunication, but I'm not sure how exactly involved they are in the Marshall vs Gordon thing. Acta non verba. I recognize Pope Francis as the Pope. (4:38 PM), People were accusing me of not reaching out to Taylor. In Infiltration Taylor Marshall sets out to explain the current situation in the Church by making the case for an infiltration of the Church by her enemies. However, around Easter of 2020 (during the pandemic), I found a bunch of people suddenly debating each other in Catholic circles regarding Marshall and Gordon (taking sides, calling the other side uncharitable, etc) and that, somehow, fellow internet Catholic Michael Voris of Church Militant got involved. . [29][30], With the exception of Infiltration, Marshall's books are self-published under the imprint of Saint John Press and Media, a company held and managed by Marshall.[13][14]. (4-14-20, 5:01 PM), Im fine. Dr. Taylor Marshall and Tim Gordon of the smashing TnT podcast (Taylor Marshall and co-host Tim Gordon) and YouTube channel join me to talk about the death of men and how it has affected the behavior of the . What's the essence of their disagreement? Marshall and Gordon have each appeared on her YouTube channel, and Nicholas has interacted with her tweets more than 100 times since 2017. (8:04 PM), no pattern except that I wish them both welltheyre both Catholics with whom I mostly agree Trent [Horn]: a smart dude I barely know & only spoke with thrice; Taylor: a smart dude I know WELLspoke to him daily for over a year, until he abruptly/mostly stopped replying to texts/calls[.] Husband, and Father to 8 children. The SSPX equaling formal schism stuff is wrong, as far as I know. In another video, Taylor Marshall says this: I think the Pope has said heretical things. So the seventh accusation is patently false. It is sheer blatant hypocrisy for him to also say that no one can judge the Pope. Bottom line: Timothy Gordon is clearly trying to reach out to Taylor and stop the disunity; Taylor Marshall wants no part of it. You are wrong on divorce and remarriage, and absolution and Communion for people living in objective sin. Walther accused Marshall of "distorting or simply lying" about the pope in order to anger Catholics. Line by line commentary by Dr Taylor Marshall and Timothy Gordon. I dont think theyre formally schismatic, but its a case by case determination that is impossible to make unless you speak to the individual Kook yelling novus ordo is invalid!, Just tried calling you. I said nothing about you or your family on here and never would! Maybe, but his schism is not. Copyright A.D. 2018 Catholic Stand | Powered by Astra, The Slow Death of ManhoodDr. But after the fact of our sinfulness, our fallenness, our brokenness, given that many persons are weak in many ways, and so cannot bring themselves to accept the Catholic religion, God permits them other paths to salvation, which are nevertheless always through Christ and His Church (even though they may not realize this). (. (1:54 PM), The issue is that the texts are to be presumed faithful unless specifically heretical, even if their drafters used weaponized ambiguity[.] VIGANO Part 2 [Podcast] . [3][4] Marshall had previously served as a youth minister at Saint Andrew's Episcopal Church while an Episcopal deacon. Ill speak to ANY of these guys Ive ever crossed swords with. For their good and mine and all of us, Im officially ending this nasty Twitter feud. But in an April 2020 tweet, Tim said that his contract with Marshall was not renewed "against my wishes." His cohort in over 100. You are just another false prophet. In this video, I address the recent controversy surrounding Taylor Marshall's comments on the SSPX, Dave and Tim Gordon's reactions to it, and arguments that. The other hypocrisy here is that Marshall said no one may judge the Pope, and they he says, to the Pope, You are wrong on a long series of subjects. And he states this again, more specifically later in the video. Its practically sedevacantist.. . Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxoUW3Tn01Y. [16] Marshall was noticed by the campaign in return, and retweeted on the president's Twitter account. Gordon Dalbey. And JP2 was FAR more modernist than he acknowledges, but the point is that Daves tweet to Taylor was 100.0000% civil[.] are the easiest: just send to my email address: apologistdave@gmail.com. [27], Marshall met his wife, Joy McPherson, in 1999. And thats just what it is, guessing. The good part is that its NEVER too late to make up[.] (2) No Pope can commit apostasy, heresy, or schism, for then his faith would have failed. Marshall goes on to make the judgment that Pope Francis has taught heresy and grave error, contrary to dogma. I said Ive reached out several times in the New Year w/ scarcely a response. They stopped being men and became guys, and now, in tragic numbers, feckless soy boys. (3:04 PM), Nobody wants the Catholic infighting, Taylor. Tim addresses Taylor Marshall's spurious attack on FSSP/ICKSP's recent communique (to the Vatican about Traditionis Custodes) as a "cave in.". This mainstream trad Catholic dalliance with the schismatic SSPX (canon 751) is beginning to endanger the souls of the faithful and it needs quashing with dispatch. There is no clearly statement of the public sin of schism than for a Catholic to say, I resist him to his face. You are not absolved of schism by stating that you recognize he is the Pope. "The Catholic Monitor" Butchers My View of Papal Lucas Banzoli Misrepresents Chrysostom's Eucharistic Theology. Some are born from culture, but they always look to heaven; they look to God. Timothy (words in green henceforth, and Taylors in blue) tweeted on April 13th ( at 8:06 PM and 8:13 PM): Just defending myself with the truth. Basically, the cause of the current quarrel is the status of the SSPX, and whether to receive sacraments from them or attend their services. EWTN, Catholic Answers or their personal blog? Anyway, if it is blue-on-blue attacks you are worried about, that is exactly what Im criticizing TM for. Traditionis Custodes: Sky is Here After Four Months! Its quite strange, no? Its not a matter of opinion. [22], In October 2019, Marshall received media attention for publicizing an incident at the Catholic Church's Amazon Synod in which Alexander Tschugguel and an accomplice filmed themselves removing indigenous fertility statues, reportedly of Pachamama, from the Church of Santa Maria in Traspontina in Rome and throwing them into the Tiber river. Marshall then objects to the phrase in the Open Letter heretical Pope. We also look at the errors of Balthasar and his hypothesis of "Dare We Hope that All Be Saved" (a theory also espoused by Bishop Robert Barron). I must admit to my own biases in that I don't trust converts, especially those making $$$ off the church's controversies. Podcaster and YouTuber. Press J to jump to the feed. #TnT1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mTcyTZ_Yc02 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMTNjOjDmjM 3 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKimOr9RRCI 4 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV9v0RUlqMQ 5 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQUjt0uZv-g 6 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyJ_EX1UPtA7 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-AG_nBPhH4 8 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YmEMbyttCs The Catholic Talk Show - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd9w8fxlmP4 UPDATED 5/14/19 to add: Taylor Marshall was an Episcopalian priest until May of 2006, when he left the Episcopalian priestly ministry to become Catholic. And he makes this absolutely clear later in the video: Marshall: Its like Paul in Galatians, he could resist Peter to his face, but he couldnt depose Peter. Its intellectual. Civil discussion is whats needed and you wont even respond to me, privately or publicly. Reaching out to a brother in Christ is ALWAYS good advice. (1:50 PM), Thats what we are saying: we KNOW the intent was bad. Taylor Marshall and Timothy Gordon. And yet his accusers ignore his statements which agree with their point of view! And since the DOGMA of the First Vatican Council teaches us that no Pope can teach or commit heresy, Marshalls accusation is itself heretical. (7:45 PM), Petty, self-serving, vindictive, egomaniacal acts like releasing sensitive private 411 about my household during Abbys surgery. Marshall graduated from Texas A&M University in 2000 with a Bachelor of Arts degree in philosophy. Just gotta retry each day for unity. He also says that during Abby's surgery this past weekend, Taylor tweeted some private and confidential sensitive information about Tim's household, having obtained that information as a result of his (former) close friendship with Tim. Do any have a Mandatum from their bishop to teach? Its intolerable, Its a boring, inconsequential, fruitless debate. Check out some of their funniest moments. I heard he was mad about some of them[.] Submit your mind and heart to the Vicar of Christ, as to Christ himself. We have to be able to have discussion intellectually, w/o the fomenting of the emotions. . And Francis gave the above statement, essentially as a reply, saying, Yes, it is Gods permissive will. I'm not sure if any of you posted this story already. Our Ladys Teaching On Prayer: The First of a Lenten Course on Prayer, What Fast Does Lent Require? Anyway, out of the blue, Tim departed from Dr. Marshall's channel. His critical statement on his web page was even more scathing: Taylor Marshall, a man I usually ignore, has insulted the signatories of this statement, as lacking the brave and bold spirit which, he claims, animated the late Archbishop Lefebvre. 2 or 3 of them. Distinctions matter[.] Professional gurus need money to survive but when their popularity wanes then the cycle begins again as the apologists have to reinvent themselves or go back to regular work. Or admit that you have fallen into grave sin out of pride in the brightness of your own thoughts. Please say a prayer for me. Im arguing that they failed by not clearly articulating their modernism, The issue is that the texts are to be presumed faithful unless specifically heretical, even if their drafters used weaponized ambiguity. For context, here is one of the podcasts they did a while ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxoUW3Tn01Y. My position is that, before the fact of our sinfulness, God wills that everyone know the fullness of truth, and so He wills everyone to be Catholic. And since this gift is of prevenient grace, it admits of no exception. He was acting as a good father. This is contrary to the first Commandment of the Ten Commandments. Marshall is publicly accusing Pope Francis of heresy on the plurality of religions, and of violating one of the Ten Commandments. The Spirit also works with unbelievers, such as atheists and agnostics, so that they might find salvation by loving their neighbor, and thereby may implicitly know and love God. But I saw Josephs tweet and found it disappointing. The example shown by so many conservative Catholics is gravely immoral. You are wrong on Justification. (11:30 PM), Dave and I guessabout the status of SSPX differently. Your email address will not be published. NOT TOO LATE! I stand by that judgement, and, Marshall appears to imagine that the Superiors General should react to their complex situation with the subtlety of some Hollywood action-hero: an attitude, in fact, completely at odds with the historical reality of Archbishop Lefebvre himself. (3:02 PM), [DorotaG had tweeted (4-12-20, 11:01 PM): My bishop in endangering my soul and the boot licking FSSP is nowhere to offer a real mass. Daves position and mine, while distinguishable, are in close enough orbit to give faithful, non-contumacious, full-communion Catholics a nice spectrum to examine and choose from. Well, if he wants to base his understanding of ecclesial politics on, It is an interesting fact about social media that some people who witnessed Marshalls insult of the Superiors General, and my own criticism of Marshall for making this insult, concluded that. Under the dogma of the First Vatican Council, no valid Pope can possibly teach heresy or grave error, nor fail in faith. The book has been controversial in Catholic circles, drawing both positive and negative reviews from various media outlets. Outward unity among the reactionaries has been fairly solid, since all alike detest and despise the pope (my enemys enemy is my friend.). Taylor Marshall is a schismatic and a heretic, and therefore is not properly called a Catholic. What would be the reaction of some knuckle-headed character played by Mel Gibson? Kelly. Another wrong SSPX talking point. He wont call back. People accused me of not reaching out, which I have been for months, Did you see how many folks idiotically assumed that I havent been reaching out as a brother in Jan/Feb/March? I can get over combat fast, cuz Ive done a lot of literal and figurative fighting[.]. It needs to stop. The latter of which was/is troubling and misleading, Im not convinced SSPX is in schismatic! For their good and mine and all of us, Im officially ending this nasty Twitter feud. by "The Catholic Monitor" Butchers My View of Papal "Eucharistic Pharisees" (Communion in the Hand). You are wrong on all of these things. If youre tired of politically correct mediaspeak, you want to see God back in the public square, and youre not allergic to having a laugh, you will love this podcast. It has long struck me that the faith has never been so under attack. When they reach the seventh accusation against Pope Francis, Marshall again accuses the Pope of heresy. Meaning inheres in text, not intention. Even atheists recognize that fact. My Episode 71 interview with Rev. I will unsubscribe from the Taylor Marshall channel. As Faramir says of war: sin makes corpses of us all. The current dust-up has far more potentially serious. Good bye Mr Taylor. The relatio of Vatican I makes it clear that the Fathers of the Council intended to assert as dogma the teaching of Doctor of the Church Saint Robert Bellarmine that the Pope cannot in any way be heretical, or publicly teach heresy. So Taylor Marshall is publicly accusing Pope Francis of teaching multiple heresies. Finally, God wills to permit unbelief and highly-flawed religions, under His permissive will, because He respects our free will. It needs to stop. Catholic micro-celebrity is wholly meaningless and mostly fruitless. He sent a diplomatic text insinuating there wouldnt be a call. Truly care for him. I am living my life and have no time for their judgments over my soul and my family. He threw all 'boomers' under the bus and not all of them drank the V2 koolaid. It had become clear we didnt agree about Taylors evolving position on the SSPX, but I wished to continue: we were still bringing souls to the Church together, which matters most to me[.] There are certainly a few factors, as with all etiologies, but I speculate that his evolution regarding SSPX was probably one of them. 2 or 3 of them. Joseph Shaw, chairman of The Latin Mass Society of England and Wales, himself a radical Catholic reactionary, has dissed the even more extreme Taylor Marshall. Pope St. Leo IX: By passing a preceding judgment on the great See, concerning which it is not permitted any man to pass judgment, you have received anathema from all the Fathers of all the venerable Councils. Photographed by, Careers Workplace and Religion Columnists, Recreation Outdoors and Religion Columnists, Religious Music and Entertainment Columnists, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, The Latin Mass Society of England and Wales. I heard he was mad about some of them, have helped you (by Gods grace) to decide to, , or better understand some doctrines and, Or you may believe my work is worthy to support for the purpose of apologetics and evangelism in general. All else is minutiae, God bless FSSP! All the while, Marshall continues to receive Communion, despite rejecting the Roman Pontiff. I just dont want this dragging out in public. (2:00 PM), Yes theres a new theology that needs to be rejected. Yet he also says that no one may judge the Pope. Look at what the Church says on the matter: [link] (4-12-20, 9:43 PM), Debating an issue is fragging? I reached out to Tim this morning. Same here but for a different reason. Honesty check time[.] Im always in need of more funds: especially. Tons of defamatory theories swirling about my motives and about the TnT breakup itself (which Marshall is conspicuously failing to correct). Taylor Marshall and Timothy Gordon are one of the funniest Catholic guys on Youtube. So he doesnt understand the Rosary, or the Latin Mass, or St. Thomas? Reactionary Trads or Catholic Radical Reactionaries believe the following: * 1. this morning, actually. Because there are many religions, and why are there many religions? Marshall: Honestly, Tim, I think Ive said this before, this statement bothers me more, I think its more heretical, more grievous than anything in Amoris Laetitia. Moreover, since we are not in full communion with SSPX, receiving the Eucharist with them is a performed falsehood. Hes got a good heart and weve both had a hard year. (4-13-20, 12:16 AM). Yes theres a new theology that needs to be rejected. What if its true, Eric? (12:25 PM), JP2 indeed spread a false ecumenism but wasnt trying to kill the TLM entirely. [13][14] He actively promotes traditionalist Catholicism through his various websites, blog posts, podcasts, and YouTube videos. No one who considers the Pope to be a heretic also submits their mind and heart to the teaching of that same Pope. My sole issue with his Easter tweet was that he retracted his previous due criticisms of the SSPX, which I worried would nudge many of the faithful to attend SSPX liturgy, which would endanger the less-educated in the Faith, since they will more readily succumb to therebellious mindset of the Society towards VC II and towards the Novus Ordo, a mindset that is condemned by the Church. Meaning inheres in text, not intention. I think it comes dangerously close. In this video, Pope Francis Accused of 7 Counts of Heresy by 19 Scholars, Taylor Marshall and Timothy Gordon discuss the Open Letter accusing Pope Francis of heresy. Well have to wait and see what side other big shots in the reactionary world (e.g., Many lesser-known Marshall fans & followers, ICKSP (which now runs the parish I attended in Detroit for 25 years), The Tabernacle: Egyptian & Near Eastern Precursors. [28] Marshall and his family converted from Anglicanism to Catholicism. All this time I thought "Jesus Revolution" Film & the Sacrament of Baptism. You are wrong on cohabitation. . This happened on Easter Sunday when Taylor Marshall received the sacraments from the SSPX: the breakaway group which is in imperfect communion with the Catholic Church. Now he is attacking people whose sandals he is unworthy to untie. But right here, thats a judgment and accusation against the Pope of teaching material heresy. Something happened to men in the last 50 years. (1:47 PM), There were other pastoral councils that did not condemn a heresy. I never claimed I texted Taylor yesterday. Thank you! Marshall has been openly critical of Bishop Robert Barron's promotion of the Balthasarian thesis of the possibility of universal salvation. Taylor Marshall is a heretic and a schismatic. Tim appeared regularly on Marshall's YouTube show until early 2020, with the pair calling themselves TNT - Taylor and Tim. Any position whatever on this topic cannot be heresy, as the Magisterium has not infallibly defined the answer. That is sad. Please review Rule 4 and this post before making a top level comment: I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. (11:32 PM). This happened on Easter Sunday when Taylor Marshall received the sacraments from the SSPX: the breakaway group which is in imperfect communion with the Catholic Church. Dr. Taylor Marshall and Tim Gordon of the smashing TnT podcast (Taylor Marshall and co-host Tim Gordon) and YouTube channel join me to talk about the death of men and how it has affected the behavior of the hierarchy of the Catholic Church. Its not the first time. Oh my! Too many apologists charge ridiculous amounts to come and speak at parishes and conferences. The latter of which was/is troubling and misleading[.] (3:39 PM), Nonsense. We patiently wait, endure, and we resist.. Home The Slow Death of ManhoodDr. We read the Vatican docs for their original public meaningthat which was ratified by a votenot their presumptive intentwhich isnt certainly ascertainable[.] Its intolerable[.] God wanted to allow this: Scolastica theologians used to refer to Gods voluntas permissiva. (2:04 PM), I dont think theyre formally schismatic, but its a case by case determination that is impossible to make unless you speak to the individual Kook yelling novus ordo is invalid! (2:14 PM), Just tried calling you. He is putting himself above the Pope, to judge his teachings to be gravely erroneous. And we must accept the Pope, not merely as someone who holds an office, but truly as our very own Teacher and Shepherd. Timothy Gordon has come down on the critical side: I stand with FSSP and ICKSP. Such was my purpose for my rejoinder. Brothers squabbling a bit is the inevitable cost of abandonment by our spiritual fathers; all of us have various talents, but none of us have authority to pronounce on theological questions. Cant be sensitive or grudge-holding over some of these memes. Petty, self-serving, vindictive, egomaniacal acts like releasing sensitive private 411 about my household. Anyone who accuses any Pope of teaching material heresy, or committing heresy is guilty of heresy, for rejecting the dogma that Popes cannot teach or commit heresy, and is guilty of schism, for refusing submission to the Pope. The Twitter page for the latter (Im banned there but have seen a screenshot), proclaimed on 8 September: Marshall is a grifter with nothing to lose.. Tag Archives: Timothy Gordon Post navigation. (5:07 PM), Im not convinced SSPX is in schismatic! It was long overdue, though completely predictable. Theres an unimagined gap between FSSP and SSPX, Honestly: All I care about is the truth. In this episode, you will learn: The original story was that he was apparently leaving to focus on his own podcast series or something like it and that it was a relatively amicable departure. Friendly reminder that all top level comments must: start with "answer:" (or "question:" if you have an on-topic follow up question to ask). (9:16 PM), To all those who believed that I was criticizing his/his familys reception of the Eucharist from the SSPX rather than the implicit invitation for the less-educated faithful to frequent SSPX liturgy, note this was not my intention. Thus, when there are disagreements, how can two mini-popes with their little online fiefdoms resolve a difference? The SSPX is the only church in town that is not a total joke and does not desecrate the eucharist. The statement in question is the false allegation that Francis said God positively wills a plurality of religions. Neutral and objective. The current dust-up has far more potentially serious consequences, as I will show. What would a resurrection of men look like? [16] The foreword of the book was written by Bishop Athanasius Schneider. (4-14-20, 4:36 PM), Precisely, no more feuding in public. (3:04 PM), I dont believe (never have) as Dave does that formal schism is most likely. ], Did you see how many folks idiotically assumed that I havent been reaching out as a brother in Jan/Feb/March? (4-12-20: Easter Sunday, 6:25 AM), Shots fired by Retrograde Gordon Bros against Marshall. It's really disappointing to see two Allies so publicly argue. ). Whoever writes that Patheos blog seems to be a nasty piece of work. [8][9] Prior to his administrative work at the college, he was a professor of philosophy. I think it comes dangerously close. Radical Catholic Reactionaries. Sep 08, 2021. Taylor Marshall was a Catholic for 13 years. Look at what the Church says on the matter: Debating an issue is fragging? Ive been reaching out for months; just defending myself against slander, no pattern except that I wish them both welltheyre both Catholics with whom I mostly agree Trent [Horn]: a smart dude I barely know & only spoke with thrice; Taylor: a smart dude I know WELLspoke to him daily for over a year, until he abruptly/mostly stopped replying to texts/calls. They are[.] The largest imaginablepublic detraction w/ extremely sensitive private info you had as a family friend. Its destructive and wrong. A subreddit to help you keep up to date with what's going on with reddit and other stuff. I called him yesterday. But not while shots are fired hourly on Twitter and crowds watch on. Hes got a good heart and weve both had a hard year. God allowed this. Catholics who refuse to do so, deliberately and obstinately, are guilty of schism. College of Saints John Fisher & Thomas More, Donald Trump's 2020 presidential campaign, "The Secret Society of Priests Who Hate Pope Francis", "Not All Evangelicals and Catholics Together", "Why it's harder to become a Catholic than a Protestant", "New priests ordained, church buildings blessed", "Why Won't The New Saint Thomas Institute Respond To Their Customers? See this list of magisterial teachings. (9:58 PM), Lefebvre voted for EVERY SINGLE DOCUMENT. If anyone can enlighten me, that would be appreciated. But if youre saying that hes a heretic, which they say in his opening line, an heretical Pope, my ecclesiastical sense says, you also have to say: And therefore I am not in communion with him. And that is something that I, Taylor Marshall, on this date, cannot say. Do not be deceived, my fellow Catholics. Catholic micro-celebrity is wholly meaningless and mostly fruitless. Do you think that your enthusiasm for the new Pope erases your sins of heresy and schism? * What Saint Bellarmine really said about Popes and Heresy. (8:50 PM), You bet. It had become clear we didnt agree about Taylors evolving position on the SSPX, but I wished to continue: we were still bringing souls to the Church together, which matters most to me, : Im happy to chat, do a show, slap high fives and come together about the (majority) stuff we agree on OR do a civil show about the (minority) stuff we disagree on. He made it sound like he called back, Steve. I enjoy and respect them both. Ego kills. Now they havent judged him, obviously no one can do that. Wherever it leads. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. The good part is that its NEVER too late to make up. (If recent history is a guide, I wont get a reply. Its quite strange, no? I reached out to Tim this morning. Thats my ecclesiastical position. 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