You cannot paste images directly. E 202 H. This error message will not clear and the entire system has to be turned off and restarted. I thought the 4e used flashing codes on the pcb to give error codes, eg sssl ssss (with s = short and l=long). Two mixed modes can be selected at the control panel as well: Mixed 1 (propane and Electric 1) and Mixed 2 (propane and Electric 2). -Service Center-. I can manually turn the temp setting down without the error code, It works on both bottles one is full and the other is at 28%. Water temperature exceeded in summer mode: Check battery voltage, charge if necessary, Failure (short circuit or broken cable), room temperature, Inspect the filter and replace it if necessary, Keep the air inlets / outlets on the roof free of obstructions such as leaves. Is this a fault with the PCB in the boiler? 218 0 obj <> endobj Got the same code and stove behavior. We really like the Trumas variety of operations. Magdalena The Eco Plus 14,300 BTU rating is a bit anemic for our size of camper, and like we said earlier, takes awhile for the truck camper to heat up initially. Not all RVs need to use this featureours includedbut its important to know how it works and that its there in case you need it. Get it with Truck Camper Adventure's weekly newsletter. Any more ideas ? Second, the Truma Combi Eco Plus weighs only 37 pounds. Truma gas filling level display. The E202H error code does not seem to be that rare, but there appears to be no single simple certain cure. Copyright Warners Group Publications Plc. The E45H error code indicates the absence of a 110 volt AC input, which will only display when operating in either the Mixed or Electric modes, while the E212H error code indicates an empty propane tank. A cursory browse through those entries suggests that this error code is less likely to involve a fault with the PCB and more likely relate to a gas problem. The propane furnace and propane water heater have long been the go-to appliances to provide these luxuries, yet each have their limitations when it comes to efficiency and size. Pasted as rich text. it seems that your heater is not connected or the 12V power supply is interrupted. Thats why we were excited when we first learned about the Truma Combi water heater and furnace. In 2013, Truma opened an office in Elkhart, Indiana in order to handle distribution and technical support here in the growing North American market. According to the operating manual, the hot water mode is ideal only if hot water is required. When a PCB fails and the Magic Fairy becomes uncontrollable, the unpredictable consequences are referred to as "Puck Ups". Magdalena Hi Henrik, Just wondered as I had this issue. It doesnt matter if its a slide-in or a chassis-mount, a hard-side or a pop-up, if its a truck camper and its carried on a truck, we cover it. Thank you very much! After the reset the screen flashes a few times and returns to the clock. My rig had four supply outlets and did a pretty good job of spreading the heat around, as far as compared to the furnance in my old Lance 815 this Truma is light years ahead. GB 638 3492 15. 4. Second, while the Eco Plus heats water wonderfully well, the furnace of the Eco Pluswhich puts out 14,300 BTUsisnt nearly as powerful as Suburbans ubiquitous 20,000 BTU propane furnace. Peter. best is you contact one of our service stations. -Service Center-, Hi Magdalena, thanks for your help, Ive tried the above but unfortunately its still not working. He's been RV'ing since 2002, is a certified RVIA Level 1 RV Technician, and has restored several Airstream travel trailers. If you figure out how to replace the key barrel let me know please! Like any good product, you have to learn how it works and responds in all temperatures, elevations, and settings. The issue has been confirmed that the error happens when the system shuts down when the set temperature has been reached, so instead of going on stand by until the boiler needs to restart to maintain set temperature it thinks the gas supply has been lost and gives the error code. This happened this week, our first trip since the habitation service. How do I hard reset the Truma? Unfortunately, there is no trained service partner in Mallorca. Hello Paul, 243 0 obj <>stream I think there is a company in Canada that will sell you one, but I dont think it is supported by Truma. Truma Diagnose Tool. Display elements on the control panel consist of a status on top (the icons flash until the desired air or water temperature is reached), menu items below (which includes room temperature, water temperature, power source, and fan speed), a power supply display, and settings/values (these include clock, temperature, error codes, and display settings including temperature offset). Truma Frostair. Two Trucks and Two Campers! Kind regards Your link has been automatically embedded. for the replacement of the fuse, please contact your dealer or one of our service partners: https://www.truma.com/int/en/truma-dealers is this something I can order and replace myself ? Anybody any experience on this code/ fault. Truma CP plus - iNet ready, Chapter 8, Warning and Error - YouTube What should I do if the control panel displays a warning or error? The lowest burner setting suffices for heating water. After purchasing a Class B RV Coachmen Beyond 22C Alice and Tommy T expierienced a Truma Heater Furnance Hot Water System Error Fault E2 12 H. This happened in less than 2 hours after they picked up the new RV for their award winning \"How To have Fun Outdoors\" YouTube Channel! Sure, weve been a bit disappointed with the Truma Combis somewhat anemic furnace, but we have learned to compensate for it by simply using the fan speed Boost mode and by allowing more time for the camper to heat-up. Kind regards below is the code :- For approximately 5 seconds, press and hold the reset button, the yellow light should turn green. J ai le Code erreur E 120 H sur truma combi chauffage/eau chaude par gasoil. Ah right. It's been kept very quiet as it was felt not to project a sufficiently sophisticated image for the Combi product, and also that imprisoning supernatural entities (be they ever so small) in machines might provoke distaste and/or alarm in the minds of prospective Combi buyers. Allow the reset to finish by releasing the reset button. If the reset doesnt work, please contact one of our servicepartners: https://www.truma.com/int/en/truma-dealers The latter error code can be especially useful in the event of over discharging the battery while camping off-grid. https://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/forum/threads/truma-combi-error-codes.126354/, https://www.truma.com/uk/en/faq/fault-code-on-truma-cp-plus-control-panel.html. Contacts can be found at: https://www.truma.com/int/en/truma-dealers, 2021 - Truma Gertetechnik GmbH & Co. KG, Putzbrunn | Have left 15+ mins and tried resetting. Shame. Newer units are also iNet ready, meaning that the unit can be controlled via Bluetooth/SMS with the addition of the iNet box and required smartphone application. Kreis company started with a simple gas lamp, but today his company has grown into the leading caravan/RV component supplier in Europe. I have messured the voltage at the circuit board to 12.75V. Powered by WordPress. when a gas tap or bottle is shut or not fully turned on, or a regulator is partially blocked or frozen) thats what those discussions tend to concentrate on, with several comments mentioning advice from Truma that prolonged use of autogas (presumably when the leisure-vehicles gas system is not fitted with a Truma filter) can eventually provoke this error code. The latter might be something simple (eg. https://www.truma.com/int/en/truma-dealers It may not display this or other websites correctly. I then get an ?? Air is drawn internally into the exchanger via a fan, heated by the burner, and distributed to the RV via a maximum of four flexible ducts (our Roadrunner truck camper has three). Upload or insert images from URL. Here is a screenshot from the Truma manual. Aujourd'hui, le. -Service Centre-. If I turn the boiler off v no error code. Mello Mike is an Arizona native, author, and the founder of Truck Camper Adventure. Either the E202H fault is genuine and theres some sort of gas-flow problem, or its spurious which might mean a PCB fault. (results here). 3. -Service Center-, Hi Truma Depending on the device an production year, the fuse specifications are different. There should be a permanent connection via the electrical block to the body battery. All Rights Reserved. 234 0 obj <>/Filter/FlateDecode/ID[<35ED2D0D3333F347BDE8F0CE844DCE59>]/Index[218 26]/Info 217 0 R/Length 82/Prev 26648/Root 219 0 R/Size 244/Type/XRef/W[1 2 1]>>stream No leds are lightning or flashing at the circuit board. Your door problem seems to be a recurring Rapido issue! Two factors can be considered as causes of the connection problem: Communication is only possible if the heater is powered in addition to the control unit. Then reset the control panel again (Setup Reset PR Set Init) TIN connection cable. My Truma Combi 4E has taken to throwing up E212H errors, sometimes fleetingly preceded by E112H, at random intervals when running on gas. Many greetings In the furnace mode, the Truma Combi has an adjustable temperature range between 40 and 86 degrees F. The furnace automatically selects the proper operating level based on the difference between the temperature set at the control panel and the current room temperature. Truma U.K. are very good on the phone as discovered by Richie very recently. Your previous content has been restored. - KK7TCA. 11, 2019 13 likes 56,324 views Download Now Download to read offline Automotive Diagnose your Truma Combi on the go with this handy cheat sheet of Truma Combi diagnostics by Truma. What would we rate the Truma Combi Eco Plus unit? Hello Moises, I cant get one. The control panel has lost all its icons other than time and spanner after resetting the control. If none of the measures in the troubleshooting chart proves successful or fault codes are displayed that cannot be found in the troubleshooting chart, please contact the Truma Service Center at 1-855-558-7862 or one of our authorized service partners. This versatile little unit not only can heat the air and water in your RV, but can do so with greater efficiency. But this is only a guess from a distance. V.rN^f/w6X4TgCl;ZyyU0znm The manual says "gas valve closed" or "exhaust. In 1994, the company released its first combination water heater-furnace unit, called the Trumatic C, which was replaced by the better, more efficient Truma Combi in 2007. To enjoy all the benefits of the new portal, you need to re-register. For more Class B Tips Subscribe!#trumafault #error #coachmen #faulte212h #e212h #fix #fixtruma #beyond #camping #van #classbLIKE/SHARE/SUBSCRIBE TO SUPPORT THE CHANNEL!Join Alice from Italy, Tommy T, Rocky (Yorkie) and Gypsy (Silky) on How To Have Fun Outdoors! Having a large lithium battery (360 amp hours), however, we have our Truma wired differently from most RVs. Unlike other errors such as lack of 240v or 12v it is not cleared when the original issue is is restored. They are about 35 each! c HT, b|PCmF3n'Bm60S ifplC~` z Unless things have changed, you cant buy this unit in the US to install yourself. Direct processing through us is not possible. Provided that all cables are ok and the device does have 12V power supply. endstream endobj 219 0 obj <>/Metadata 4 0 R/Pages 216 0 R/StructTreeRoot 8 0 R/Type/Catalog>> endobj 220 0 obj <>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text]>>/Rotate 0/StructParents 0/TrimBox[0.0 0.0 612.0 792.0]/Type/Page>> endobj 221 0 obj <>stream Blue Knight was on the money. Just curious, anyone know if the Comfort Plus model similar in size and weight to the Eco Plus? An error code is shown on the display of my digital CP plus control panel - how do I find out what it means? Will require a small transformer to boost power. Time to get outside! Jack grew up in Jasper, Arkansas, served in the US Army for three years, attended college at the University of [read more], I am trying to get a truma Combi Comfort Plus for my 2017 Four winds camper. The gas pressure is normal and the boiler will operate with all the cooker burners lit as well as the fridge. %%EOF I can then start the heating again on gas. You're An RVer Now, And You Just Realized Health I See The Before & After Of This Fifth Wheel RV Headboard Ideas To Spruce Up Your Space, See Inside This Renovated 1983 Scamp Trailer, Disney's Fort Wilderness Resort & Campground, Rainbow Plantation - Escapees Rainbow Park, What To Do If Your RV Breaker Keeps Tripping, RV Safe Turn By Turn Directions on Your Phone, https://www.truma.com/uk/en/faq/faulrol-panel.html. The TIN cable is used to transmit commands from the control panel to the heater. Clear editor. Ill add a con to the list. Started Monday at 05:23 PM, By the connection will be reestablished after resetting the panel once more. -XKH?8nZ?1? vZ x$HBG'I Z9hN0 dUI&5>&_}^~Ys7x Detailed information about the fault codes, their cause and how to fix them can be found in theOperating and Installation Instructions of the Truma CP plus. Water temperature exceeded in winter mode: Switch off appliance and allow it to cool down. It has number 34020-00298, but I am not able to find a place on the internet where I can buy a sparepart? 37 APPENDIX A - Error Codes If the appliance malfunctions, LED 2 (refer to "Overview / Designation of parts" on page 2) will flash to indicate the malfunction. This use of space isnt an issue in larger recreational vehicles, like motorhomes and fifth wheels, but can be in smaller RVs like van conversions and truck campers. Has anyone had this problem and if so how was it resolved. The way the Truma Combi works is pretty neat. Learning how to operate the Truma Combi via the control panel is fairly easy. I think its a great unit, and I want one. It only takes a few seconds. Nice! Dealer to fix, looms I fear. Hopefully that would fix the fault, but it might well not. laimeduck #122, #212 Combustion air infeed or exhaust gas outlet closed. Alice and Tommy T will provide you with great coverage of all kinds of Fresh Water and Salt Water Fish, Dolphins, Moose, Deer, Fox, Rabbits, Elk, Bald Eagles, Buffalo, Lemures, Manatees, Lions, Bengals, Crocodiles, Birds, Whales, Elephants, Big 5, Cheetah, and much more! No attempt to start at all. It is almost as if a sensor is not working. If the installed heater is only the gas/diesel version without electrical heating elements, it is OK that no electrical icon is displayed. Today I have removed the 12v fuse that supplies the boiler. If two TIN sockets are occupied, it does not matter which of the two TIN cables the coupling is used with. Can't predict when it's going to happen, but when it does it's always as the boiler's firing up. Check your inbox or spam folder now to confirm your subscription. Still, it wasnt that badit took us about two weeks to learn all of the ins and outs associated with operating it. David and Sally Apr 9, 2018 6,577 30,346 Worcestershire Funster No 53,271 MH Don't have one right Exp March 2018 Mar 1, 2020 #2 Hope this helps 21K views 1 year ago This is a basic video on how to re-set the Truma combi boiler after a GAS lockout. The Truma Combi Eco Plus allows for the selection of three sources of power: Propane (gas), Electric (110 volts AC), and Mixed (propane and electric). could be worth trying a DIY repair and changing the sensor? Fault code Cause Remedy #1: Failure (short circuit or broken cable), room temperature sensor: Contact Truma Service #2: Ice sensor (inside) triggered: Inspect the filter and replace it if necessary #4: Ice sensor (outside) triggered: Keep the air inlets / outlets on the roof free of obstructions such as leaves #8: IR receiver unplugged or cable . I appears to have rebooted the system if that is possible. Daniel. We cover all types of truck campers here at Truck Camper Adventure. The rotary push button is used to select menu items in the top and bottom and to adjust settings. hbbd``b`jy b` Happeneded to us as well with the exact same problem as you. Weve been living in our truck camper rig for seven weeks now and its been quite [read more], Jack and Darcie Peeler are avid truck camper enthusiasts with a love for the outdoors. The way it works is pretty easy. Additional error codes that the owner should be aware of include an empty water tank (E17H) and loss of 12 volt DC power (E255H). Not quite! There is not a problem with the regulator because the boiler will work non stop on gas until either turned off or the temperature is reached. I think your 4kw main valve could be faulty. Magdalena On our last van we used to get random errors including that one, particularly when using the timer, ours was 2014, a software upgrade cured it. These are probably the most common error codes associated with the Truma Combi and are the ones weve encountered the most since weve owned our camper. Hi Pete, I can give you some insight of the low temperature capability of the Truma. Thanks again Spike, Hello Spike, I can now confirm the boiler will turn itself off when temp is reached, it works on gas, electric or mixed. Company Registered in England no. Forget all the negative news and work stress, join us for some fun and great #outdoor videos every week on our channel!CHANNEL PLAYLIST (Fishing, Camping, Amusement parks, Winter Activities, Summer Activities, RVing, Travel, and much more! In this 2007 forum thread relating to problems with the earlier Truma C6002EH heater, https://forums.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/Motorhomes/Motorhome-Matters/Truma-C6002EH-combination-boiler/6959/, (I reckon Truma insert a Magic Fairy into each Combi appliance as it leaves the factory line and this tiny invisible being sprinkles special igniting dust on the gas burners when heater is switched on. Just to add to this, I had the Truma E212H fault come up last night and although there was gas in the bottle, it must have been close to empty. Have you tried contacting Truma direct? Yes everything was switched off but still no joy. Some of the add-ons on this site are powered by. often special order. The wall cowl and the furnace are connected by an ingenious duct in the exhaust venting system, which consists of an exhaust tube inside and a combustion air intake tube outside. Fortunately, there is a good work-aroundjust operate the furnace alone since operating it automatically heats the water as well. In this state, commands entered cannot be transmitted or cannot be transmitted correctly. You can post now and register later. -Service Center-. Kind regards I've now been informed by a reliable (but necessarily anonymous) Truma contact that my Magic Fairy (MF) theory is true. Its not overly complex, but its nowhere as simple as operating an American-made Suburban or Atwood water heater or furnace. It makes no sense to me. Mello Mike is an Amazon.com associate. We've not got one of those so just using the flash codes from the pcb. All Rights Reserved. Initialize it (setup reset pr set init) Without a problem. The article control panel cable coupling can be ordered from our specialist dealer (part number 39050-00175). Magdalena Where can I purchase the truma Combi Comfort Plus for me to install it? could you please check, what software version the CP plus has. Please place this coupling between the TIN socket on the heater and the TIN cable. Truma North America will be showing off their newest product at Tampas Florida RV SuperShow. kind regards, Any help appreciated. The added benefit of either Mixed mode is that the unit will automatically switch over to the other source in the event one of the sources is interrupted. In the Mixed Mode, propane is used until the desired temperature(s) is/are reached. Took it home anyway and used it for the planned weekend away (on hookup, of course) and wasn't able to get the boiler to fire up on gas a single time. By any chance, when first switched on, does it try to start, then stop after 20 odd seconds and display this code? 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